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Technical => Roo Man's Room => Topic started by: ss4 on December 14, 2013, 09:13:42 PM
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So currently I have my switches located off the shifter on the right side, but this tends to be a pain to reach with my left hand. looking to change. would anyone share photos for some ideas? thank you.
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Hope this helps if not email me mike.coker09@gmail.com
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Hey Mike, we all miss you and your team at the track. Your character has touched some many souls like mine.
Shifter on the left hand side? Is that common? Is Troy lefty?
PS.: Man, what a clean car! I'm sure there's a button to press that does it all in 30 seconds. Not!
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some what here is how mine are. I have them slightly tilted back say 10deg. just not comfy. Looks like you have them setup facing driver.
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Whats going to keep your right arm from hitting the cover and killing the power???
Are you going to have enough room to pull your right arm back to activate the switchs or are you going to have to cross your right arm over/under to use your left??.
What a lot of you first timers dont realize is sitting in the car with street clothes is very different then when one is wearing a suit and helmet (plus safety gear) and strapped in. There is no feeling and limited head turning and visablity. Placement of controls should be done while the driver is fully suited like he (or she) is going to make a pass. A lot of racers complain about the peddles being to far away until they remember they were fitted wearing street shoes and not the raceing slippers they got for Christmas, mosty about 3/4" difference in the soles.
Another thing I do is to keep the driver suited up in the car for 45 minutes, if you get no complaints then the driver is comfortable, if he (or she) starts to whine about getting out, you need to fix it.
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DRE ,what brand of shifter are you using with the solinoid mounted underneath?I can't read the brand from the pic . Thanks Don
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There is no picture of my drivers compartment pictured anywhere. But I will tell you that on my car I run a B&M ratchet shifter and it is mounted on top of my tailshaft housing between the drivers legs and I have rods going back the the R/E housing to a lever/handle. Since the action only allows one gear change movment at a time there is no way to skip over any gear change, no gates and levers to mess with,handle is alway in the same spot no matter what gear you are in.Opperates the same with either hand.
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I have my shifter on the right side of my car . Chute lever on left and I made a small panel in the middle for my switches . It works well for me.
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Here is my shifter and switch locations
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Sorry DRE ,That was Coker's shifter that I want to know about.
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Looks the same as Masracing just mounted on the left. is it ProShift?
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Whats going to keep your right arm from hitting the cover and killing the power???
Are you going to have enough room to pull your right arm back to activate the switchs or are you going to have to cross your right arm over/under to use your left??.
What a lot of you first timers dont realize is sitting in the car with street clothes is very different then when one is wearing a suit and helmet (plus safety gear) and strapped in. There is no feeling and limited head turning and visablity. Placement of controls should be done while the driver is fully suited like he (or she) is going to make a pass. A lot of racers complain about the peddles being to far away until they remember they were fitted wearing street shoes and not the raceing slippers they got for Christmas, mosty about 3/4" difference in the soles.
Another thing I do is to keep the driver suited up in the car for 45 minutes, if you get no complaints then the driver is comfortable, if he (or she) starts to whine about getting out, you need to fix it.
dreracecar: I am new to this board however I take exception to your remarks regarding a newbie to building cars. Now I sure was not around in the 60s but I certainly am smart enough to not wear my bathing suit and a pair of swampers on my feet. so with that crap out of the way.
Correct I do have a concern with the switch location that I tempt in, this was the point of my question. Looks like the solution that I am looking for is the cleanest way to mount straight forward over the axle. I don't want to attach to the axle and I currently don't have any support close enough to reach, since I realize my shoulders will be strapped back into the seat. so just looking for examples others have used.
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Whats going to keep your right arm from hitting the cover and killing the power???
Are you going to have enough room to pull your right arm back to activate the switchs or are you going to have to cross your right arm over/under to use your left??.
What a lot of you first timers dont realize is sitting in the car with street clothes is very different then when one is wearing a suit and helmet (plus safety gear) and strapped in. There is no feeling and limited head turning and visablity. Placement of controls should be done while the driver is fully suited like he (or she) is going to make a pass. A lot of racers complain about the peddles being to far away until they remember they were fitted wearing street shoes and not the raceing slippers they got for Christmas, mosty about 3/4" difference in the soles.
Another thing I do is to keep the driver suited up in the car for 45 minutes, if you get no complaints then the driver is comfortable, if he (or she) starts to whine about getting out, you need to fix it.
dreracecar: I am new to this board however I take exception to your remarks regarding a newbie to building cars. Now I sure was not around in the 60s but I certainly am smart enough to not wear my bathing suit and a pair of swampers on my feet. so with that crap out of the way.
Correct I do have a concern with the switch location that I tempt in, this was the point of my question. Looks like the solution that I am looking for is the cleanest way to mount straight forward over the axle. I don't want to attach to the axle and I currently don't have any support close enough to reach, since I realize my shoulders will be strapped back into the seat. so just looking for examples others have used.
I must apologize, I missed the tone of the response to the original posters question.
Having been through the "wringer" (and not that I an no longer a newbie), of being a newbie, on another forum and in fact that is the reason I am an administrator on this forum. My vision is this is a place for knowedgeable persons to mentor us beginners so that beginners have a safe and enjoyable experience.
There are not many “Rules” that I would impose. However please no cussing, cussing just shows a lack of knowledge in the use of the English Language. You can express your feelings without cussing.
Be respectful of other members. Everyone has a right to their opinions, and a right to do it differently then you might. No camping on.
The advice offered in the location that is easy to reach while in a suit is excellent. Maybe the tone of the advice offered could have been more conducive to the education of us members of the board.
The advice offered would have been more meaningful with out the "What a lot of you first timers " comment.
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Sorry for the tone, my mistake and should have left "you" out of the original post. The original thought was to give advise to others that were building their very first front engine car which by themselves are very different then anything else since you are sitting on top of the rear end . When one seeks advise it is imperative that all the info is fowarded into the original post along with many pics.
The instruction for others is to get all suited up and sit in the car and find out what limitations you have and go from there before placing the controls.
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Sorry for the tone, my mistake and should have left "you" out of the original post. The original thought was to give advise to others that were building their very first front engine car which by themselves are very different then anything else since you are sitting on top of the rear end . When one seeks advise it is imperative that all the info is fowarded into the original post along with many pics.
The instruction for others is to get all suited up and sit in the car and find out what limitations you have and go from there before placing the controls.
I agree, good advice.
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ours is on the right side, :) just, a thought, check getting out of the car with your suit on 8) that your shifter does not cost you more $$ it did us. can you say pocket - firesuit do not mix! amanda's new 20 had pockets :-\ :-\ :-\ :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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What are the thoughts on putting them on the butterfly. Currently have the trans brake on the right side. Could but on the left.
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If a car uses a magneto the switch will have to be in the "ON" posission to shut it down and for that reason is why I like using a marine grade push-pull switch that way in the run mode the button is in and no way of bumping it off and have to pull it out to shut things down
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true but then the down side is the safety shutoff of just slapping it. 6 of 1 I guess.
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Its all about personal preference, my desision was based on the fact that "I" have seen more cars shut off by the driver killing the engine by accident then the driver shuting the motor off during an accident. The switch with a cover is fine and many racers use them.
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When I first started racing I thought it would be a good idea to put my shut off switch on the brake handle . Hit it with my hand by accident and shut the car off . Moved the switch after that .Try to make your stuff easy to reach but not too easy . Once in a while it's a good idea to just sit in your car and just practice what would I do if something went wrong on a run and yes you can make car sounds if you want !!
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The only time (blown alc deal) my driver ever touches the switch is when I give him the nod after spinning the starter motor. we always kill the motor by pulling the fuel shutoff and starve the engine
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"more cars shut off by the driver killing the engine by accident then the driver shuting the motor off during an accident"
Bet that's true. But I set mine up with a T-handle above the butterfly connected to an additional master cutoff switch behind the dash and downstream of the mandatory external one, punch it and it kills everything.
Rationale being that it might be good to shut off ignition and fuel pump either during/after an event.