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Title: chance to give me your opion and I may listen
Post by: wideopen231 on July 02, 2013, 09:02:29 PM
Hey guys,

 Been trying to decide on piece for new car. here a seldom seen chance to give me your opion and me really care. Seriuosly look at pics  and let know your thoughts on these features.

 First the nose piece if you can see the  V in middle. Kind of like it would lokk fast even if we all know it have no effect.

  The chute body Im doing,the wing although it probably cost me hundredth or 2 looks B A( there no bad word).

  Rear canard look cool but just be in the way and dead weight for bracket car

  Deflector in front of  motor I like also. trying to figure how to build into sheetmetal w/o welding it on.

 what you think?
Title: Re: chance to give me your opion and I may listen
Post by: Tim Jones on July 02, 2013, 10:55:08 PM
I'll give you my 2 cents , That thing is auwsome, Cool to see someone put some good old time thought into the design of there car, Beautiful!! as far as the canard side wings extra weight Who cares if it's alittle weight ,make up for it in horsepower!! you might think about makeing the wing a few inchs wider, But no matter what you do this car will look GREAT!!   Tim Jones
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Post by: mfp-66 on July 03, 2013, 05:29:42 AM
Looks great.

 Maybe taller tires on the rear they look small due to the height of the rear wing
Title: Re: chance to give me your opion and I may listen
Post by: Huszarail on July 03, 2013, 05:40:47 AM
From the prolific workshop of Roy Wilding. For a little inspiration?
Title: Re: chance to give me your opion and I may listen
Post by: ricci32 on July 03, 2013, 06:30:49 AM
That thing is retro new style cool. a rolling work of art. Remember when cars had personality not cookie cutter.
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Post by: Foot Feed on July 03, 2013, 08:59:11 AM
How about a tech article and/or photo shoot during the body build? Including any trials and tribulations.

It'd be pretty dang cool to see it all go together.

Can you tell "How It's Made" is one of my favorite shows?  :D

Ken
Title: Re: chance to give me your opion and I may listen
Post by: wideopen231 on July 03, 2013, 02:13:49 PM
Not sure they will allow me to describe the trials part.I can be very virbal when things go wrong.Guess I could act like government and sensor myself. Working on nose peice right now.Deciding if going to cut a perfectly smooth finsh sanded and primed piece so I can add the  V in top of it. But dang it does look pretty cool. Plus it would help me standout from all the other FED that will be a most the local bracket races.I mean there maybe another one there sometime'

  As for rear canards not big deal on weight just getting in and out of car as many times as you will have to during a bracket race with 6 or 7 rounds.Plus jumping out after winning I might forget and jum on them.
Title: Re: chance to give me your opion and I may listen
Post by: wideopen231 on July 03, 2013, 02:15:32 PM
Huszarail are by and chance kin to a guy named Tom Acres who rund wizzard warehouse? Sorry green not my color and that much just reminds me of the old Wizzard(lizzard) TA/FC he ran back in 90's.
Title: Re: chance to give me your opion and I may listen
Post by: Tim Jones on July 03, 2013, 04:47:24 PM
Tom Akers now there's a name from the past, We used to run against him down at Bristol when I worked on the Cavalieri bros, alky car, Used to see your car alot back then ,  Been alway from racing for along time,,  Tim Jones
Title: Re: chance to give me your opion and I may listen
Post by: wideopen231 on July 03, 2013, 05:34:37 PM
Heck we helped make Bristol little more famous with the crash in 91 with the car riding the left hand wall.Only cost us about 20 grand.Seems everyone loved the picture,well me and dad where not real fan of that shot.Was more fun them but had more money than also,funny how those go hand and hand.

  Been away from real racing since 1999 when i sold my alky dragster. Helped few since and lil brother doing some bracket stuff.

  Trying to live up to reputation our funny had for sharp looks and good performance.Going with same color scheme here also and want to work the star into it.
Title: Re: chance to give me your opion and I may listen
Post by: Tim Jones on July 03, 2013, 09:29:01 PM
Yeah I remember when that happened, I know what you mean about not likeing the pic , after the alky cars I started working on the nitro cars, when you have to fix what gets destroyed the pics aren't quite as cool to see, I quit the racing game in 96 or 97 I think,,seemed like I'd get alway , then someone would give me a call and talk me into going  back out,,  The Starrider cars were always sharp looking cars, I'm sure your digger will be also,,, Tim Jones
Title: Re: chance to give me your opion and I may listen
Post by: Huszarail on July 04, 2013, 02:08:34 AM
Huszarail are by and chance kin to a guy named Tom Acres who rund wizzard warehouse? Sorry green not my color and that much just reminds me of the old Wizzard(lizzard) TA/FC he ran back in 90's.

Sorry, no relation to Tom. Your aversion to green isn't uncommon, Roy seems to have luck with green painted cars. That or he has lot's of it!!!  ;D
Title: Re: chance to give me your opion and I may listen
Post by: GlennLever on July 04, 2013, 05:54:29 AM
Huszarail are by and chance kin to a guy named Tom Acres who rund wizzard warehouse? Sorry green not my color and that much just reminds me of the old Wizzard(lizzard) TA/FC he ran back in 90's.

Sorry, no relation to Tom. Your aversion to green isn't uncommon, Roy seems to have luck with green painted cars. That or he has lot's of it!!!  ;D

I'm a green guy
(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/At_The_Drags/glenn2.jpg)
Title: Re: chance to give me your opion and I may listen
Post by: wideopen231 on July 04, 2013, 09:16:49 AM
Always been Blue vehicle type. Two blue harleys,blue z/28.Starr Rider was blue,panel truck is blue and grandfather always had blue lights at christmas(3000+) so we are a blue family.Since god made the sky blue and the water I figure Im in  good company.

  Had painter try to use grenn on Funnycar once.Dad told him if he did he was risky life because i would be hunting him down.

  Ok Glenn amd I now in trouble for anti green thing.Hey no cussing in it.Ha Ha Ha ha
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Post by: masracingtd1167 on July 04, 2013, 10:50:51 AM
Chris I like the idea of the rear wing . I am thinking about one for my car for stability. On a spray pass with mine it tend's to walk around on the top end with those small 12 inch tires . How come your rendering is red and white if you like blue so much !
Title: Re: chance to give me your opion and I may listen
Post by: wideopen231 on July 04, 2013, 02:37:10 PM
I cheated. Its not Mine but had 90% of stuff I drew on first sketch 7 years ago. I can draw side and top view fairly well the 3 d deal not so much plus my engine details sucks. I have to use ruler to get decent piture.I see it in head but hand doesn't do what i see. Heck when making something on mill I can make it but not draw it at time.

About the only real differance in my design and the one here is I had canopy and the nose piece. So kind of cheated using a rendering someone sent me. Oh yes when I draw them the wheels look like crap.

  I have a poster board size one here with side and top views that i want to get copied so I can do some color scheme layouts on.
Title: Re: chance to give me your opion and I may listen
Post by: wideopen231 on July 04, 2013, 02:39:32 PM
I should have some nose piece pics by weekend.Im pulling mold off plug in hour or so. Im making two molds one with V groove and one w/o it. Figure only about 20 bucks to have both molds.
Title: Re: chance to give me your opion and I may listen
Post by: GlennLever on July 04, 2013, 02:52:00 PM
Is FireFly a reference to the show?
Title: Re: chance to give me your opion and I may listen
Post by: wideopen231 on July 04, 2013, 03:07:48 PM
Glen,

 Have no idea. I posted something on another site and a guy sent me the picture that a english guy did but never built it.Well thats the story I got anyway. Like I said since it was very very close to mine except his art work lot better I kept it and yes stole a idea or two to add to my car when its done.
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Post by: GlennLever on July 04, 2013, 06:27:29 PM
Nothing wrong with that. The idea for my paint  came from the Poison Ivy dragster

(http://cacklefest.com/Bixby06/Poison-Ivy-parked2.jpg)

(http://cacklefest.com/Bixby06/Poison-Ivy-fired-2.jpg)

Although the idea came from Poison Ivy it is different

(http://www.leverfamilysite.com/images/2010_Dragster/Progress_2011_02_01/DSCN9112.JPG)
Title: Re: chance to give me your opion and I may listen
Post by: wideopen231 on July 04, 2013, 09:32:20 PM
 cool video I found on doing fiberglass work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRBEEedpuRA&feature=player_detailpage
Title: Re: chance to give me your opion and I may listen
Post by: Dave Koehler on July 05, 2013, 02:00:53 PM
Opinion: I don't think the rear wing does anything for the rest of the design. Might be good for hanging the chute on though.  :)
Suggestion: Don't make that top cowl so tight to the engine you can't work on it.
Title: Re: chance to give me your opion and I may listen
Post by: wideopen231 on July 05, 2013, 02:17:50 PM
Dave,

  I have been thinking on the top cowl part.Was thinking a hinged piece where you see the deflector in from of engine. I am the type whos always working on engine and with pump mounted low with belt drive and poppet or two  at the shut off I will have to have fairly quick access to that area.

      I've been up in the air on wing few times,but I like the look.My first design way back had a wing but was more laid back mounted low and was up and back from cockpit. I hat low wings they hurt when you ram your head into spill plates.Yea been there cpl times.
Title: Re: chance to give me your opion and I may listen
Post by: wideopen231 on July 06, 2013, 08:40:29 PM
The almost finished nose piece or plug for it.Got mold to go then final products(2 of them) to go more pics in build section.
(http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j350/wideopen231/012-2.jpg) (http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/wideopen231/media/012-2.jpg.html)

 By the way wife said it reminds her of the show EVRYBODY LOVES RAYMON where his mom made statue and everybody thought it was part of feamle body.I told her my thought too and had entertained idea of asking her to pose for it.DID NOT GO OVER GOOD!
Title: Re: chance to give me your opion and I may listen
Post by: wideopen231 on July 06, 2013, 08:45:35 PM
I couldn't go all of the way up to body like pic because of frame work,Not sure about depth looks little deep for tru areodynamic effect. Like that was real reason I orked 4 nights. I also made mold of i9t before cutting notch out just in case.