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noslin:
i looked in the rules for 7.0 'support group 9' or general regulations 9:3 does it say ANYTHING about the fire bottles extending past the front of the frame. please call out the section where it says nothing can be out in front of the frame.
as far as me putting the bottles out there, i understand the valid points with concerns to impacting a wall, another car, etc and potential hazards. I have never been around these things till couple of years ago. when i looked for the manual on how to build a front engine dragster and where to put things i could not find one. everything you mount in the car is purely a judgemental decision, for one who has never done this, the judgement is limited due to inexperience and exposure to this type of vehicle. to do again, i would probably do a few things different. nevertheless In my mind i did nothing wrong with putting them where i did other then the points mentioned, which i did not consider. so if you want to stick in my butt for being a novice and making what you feel is a mistake so be it. i thought it was a cool idea and thing to do for weight concerns so i did it.
tell me what else you feel is a problem so we can get on with it and make the necessary changes so we dont have this bs anymore.
Dean
masracingtd1167:
Dean I work part time as a tech inspector for NHRA and from my view point you have done nothing wrong ! I value Roo and Bruces input and they do make a good point about the safety aspect of this ! I plan on re mounting my bottle in a similar manner so I am thinking of a piece of 3/8 tubing in front of the bottle to protect it in case of hitting a foam block or timing beam ! I read both the NHRA and Heritage rules and I can not find it any where so I would have to say it is legal to do ! As a tech inspector I try my best to help a racer out when there is something wrong and help them find a solution !
dreracecar:
Its not always "whats in the book, but what is "NOT" in the book that tech can go by as the "BOOK" does not say you "CAN" either. You as a tech person can sign it off, Starter can shut him off at the line anyway if he feels it is not safe and thinks you missed seeing it. How many times in the tech line have you checked the helmet to roll cage distance??? There have been starters that will shut you off if they see your helmet too far out the cage. Trying to argue "tech let me run it that way a month ago" never works.
Its a grey-shady area, and since its well within the 40" overhang max, no need to build a new car, just add an extention to the frame at that point just to eliminate ANY possibility of it getting called out
masracingtd1167:
Bruce when I tech a car I go by the book as I was told by our tech director and if I have a question I will go to him and his first question is did you look it up in the book ! Last season I flunked a guy in top dragster because his helmet was expired and argued with me because he had raced all year and they told him it was fine ! I also had a woman yell at me and call me an ass hole because her husband lost from me putting him in the wrong lane !
Roger:
Legal, probably. Safe,? You have a nice car with some nice workmanship, congrats. The only dog I have in this fight is safety, for you and the others at the track. Just by chance, the photo is from the current issue of National Dragster and shows what happens when a compressed extinguishing agent is expelled at a high velocity from a loose cylinder…instant unguided missile (upper right in photo). With your bottles so far legally forward they would be the first to encounter damage in an accident and could be broken loose or have the system rendered inoperable due to damage and would be of no use in the subsequent fire. I suppose the driver in the photo should feel relieved that the bottle wasn’t aimed at him…
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