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propolen oxide
« on: December 16, 2015, 07:59:42 AM »
What does this chemical do in regard to mixing NITRO?

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Re: propolen oxide
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2015, 08:56:30 AM »

 Makes it dangerous as all xxxx.

 From what I've read, it makes the nitro even more shock sensitive. It's also a time-based deal...once you mix it, the maximum effect happens in a certain period of time after which the formation of hazardous nitrate crystals can form. Just screwing the cap on your fuel tank becomes a life threatening activity.

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Re: propolen oxide
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2015, 10:04:16 AM »
Fun stuff if you like to live on the ragged edge!  The Germans played with it at the end of WW II in the Komet rocket plane they used 2 separate trucks to fuel the plane and still killed people!
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Re: propolen oxide
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2015, 01:29:01 PM »
Its a parts solvent.Well not rerally but does have same effect on perfectly good racing parts. I know a few use to run it back when we had funnycar and they still where not keeping up with good tuneup on 100% alky.
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Re: propolen oxide
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2015, 02:00:30 PM »
It is highly reactive to rust and I believe copper. I will try to find an article on it that I remember.
When I sold race gas for a living I would occasionally have a customer ask for it. I refused to deal with it because as Spud said it was dangerous, probably more so than some of the other additives, with the exception of hydrazine. It would go off just because it wanted to.
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Re: propolen oxide
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2015, 05:13:39 PM »
Probably will have Black Crown Victorias in your street after this post. ;) ;) :D ;D :o
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Re: propolen oxide
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Re: propolen oxide
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2015, 06:58:40 AM »
Thanks for the info. Knew about the Nazis using it for a fuel from history channel. I asked because a Jr Dragster engine builder told me that they mixed it with nitro and alky. I had never heard of this before and now dont ever want to try it. As for hydrazine, My old Boss mixed it with Gasoline to run in his NHRA Event winning car [AA/GD] in the 60s. He was a Chemical Engineer and never had a blow-up. Those were the days.

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Re: propolen oxide
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2015, 08:02:11 AM »
The take I got from some old racers was that pro-ox was that there was no fuel test for it because of its high evap rate and would be gone by the time the fuel was tested. Word has it you could hold some in a glass and with the heat from your hand ,you could see it evaporate.

 Another trick a back in the day racer told me about, (Before there were burnouts), He would drain the secondary bowls and fill with a "Hot Mix" then would idle up to the line, get the signal and mash the throttle and dump the secondarys getting that extra hit. By the time the race was over, bowls would be filled back up with gas. He said he made more money by teardown protests than he did racing looking for the hidden tank

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Re: propolen oxide
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2016, 10:55:26 PM »
We used to sell a bunch of it to the local comp eliminator guys who were looking for that last thousandth>

It is such a strong oxidizer that it would precipitate the lead out of the race gas and send it to the bottom of the fuel tank>

At ten percent in alcohol would really wake up the motor

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Re: propolen oxide
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2016, 04:00:14 AM »
We used to stock it. Had it in a dark corner with a blanket over it and the gallon jugs of Nitro. The Kart guys would buy it and mix it with the oil. They would get checked for fuel but never the oil.

Open the ring gaps up just a tad and it would suck it right in.
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