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Larry Sutton's take on "real" race car drivers
« on: May 05, 2015, 05:31:24 AM »
At a recent gathering to celebrate Steve Gibbs' Birthday, Larry Sutton was asked to compare current drivers to those back in the day, Sutton launched into a long yet brilliantly funny soliloquy.

“Today, the drivers have very little to do,” he started slowly, then kept building, with each example cited more incredulously and louder than the last. “Their car gets pulled up to the lane by their crew – of thousands – and the driver dons his $2,000 helmet that’s designer like their [firesuit]. They climb into their padded seat and their padded roll cage, put on their six-piece [safety belts], and the crew starts the car. He does a burnout and backs up but doesn’t even drive to the starting line. The crew pushes him to the line. So he’s got a billet block, billet heads, and billet crank, and a crewman walks up and turns on the computer. He leaves the line and gets down there a ways, and it drops a hole, and right in the lights, the blower pops, but one of [Dennis] Taylor’s restraints holds it in place. He doesn’t even have to pull the parachute or shut off the motor because it’s all electronics. He doesn’t even have to turn off the racetrack because they come out there with a quad with a roller on it, and they push him off the track. Then he gets out of the car, and someone takes all his safety gear off of him so he can be interviewed. Just then, his opponent comes up to him and gives him a big hug because he’s glad he’s safe. Then, when he’s done with the interview, he gets into a golf cart -- that someone else is driving – and he goes back to his beautiful 18-wheeler and sends his family and friends to the hospitality trailer to have fine cuisine by the hired chef while he goes to the lounge because he’s exhausted.

“In the early days at Irwindale, he’d show up at the track with the car on a flatbed trailer, maybe a couple of friends to help, and the owner. They get ready to run, so the driver dons his ironing-board-cover one-layer firesuit and puts on his helmet that he wears during the week to ride his Harley. So they go to push-start him, and the fire-up road is really narrow, and he’s trying to keep the car on the push bar and keep the car straight because if he goes to the side, he’s going under the fence. He can’t hear anything because the new people who are push-starting him are screaming bloody murder. He’s got to let go of the steering wheel with one hand to hit the [ignition] switch. He doesn’t have an electric starter. He makes the turn and hopes the starter does not see the leaking front and rear seals into which he’s stuffed rags. He pulls up there and leaves and hopes that his single-disc, three-finger clutch – not a 100-finger, six-disc clutch – doesn’t slip so it won’t come apart and come through the welded aluminum bellhousing that may not hold up.

“He’s blazing down the course, and suddenly the breathers start breathing, and he’s getting a face full of oil. The blower comes off, and because Taylor hasn’t yet invented the blower restraint, the blower bounces down the track alongside the car. He reaches over and pulls the 16-foot ring-slot parachute that he just bought at the war surplus store. He can’t understand why it blew up because he only has 20 runs on the steel box rods. He’s slipping and sliding in his own oil, on fire, and his Vans are starting to get real hot on his feet. He makes the last turnoff with his opponent – the one who burned him down on the starting line – and he is so mad, but his car is still on fire, and there’s no one down there to help him, so he gets some Irwindale dirt and throws it on the motor to put the fire out. He’s so mad at his opponent that he wants to break his nose. He’s waiting for his crew, and he’s waiting for a long, long time. When they finally show up and he asks where they’ve been, they tell him that when they made the turn after the push-start that the toolbox fell out of the back of the truck, and they had to pick up all of the tools. They get back to the pit area, where they don’t have 10 motors to choose from – that was their only engine -- and the guy he just beat and whose neck he wanted to break walks up and offers his whole car and crew to them to put their motor in his car. That’s the difference between early racing and nowadays."

Thunderous applause.

I just wish that I had been there to hear that in person. For those who don't know, Larry was the long time starter at Lions drag strip in So-Cal and also drove a variety of fuel cars in that era.

Larry in the black hat back in the day.


And more recently.


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Offline Mark Midler

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Re: Larry Sutton's take on "real" race car drivers
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2015, 06:56:45 AM »
In 1969 I became involved with a AA/FD out of Minneapolis called " somthin else". It was a Don Long/Hanna masterpiece of front engine streamlining that at the time was considered up to date, and yet all the things you relate in your story are more the norm than the odd. If we ran a 1000 feet we could just check a few things, fill the fuel tank, and run the next round. If we had to run all the way to the finish line to win we knew the number one piston would have a hole in it, and 55 minutes in those days was a real thrash. Nothing was made to come apart easy, there were only three of us and I was just the big, unknowing beginner, who could only help a little. So the main part of the rebuild in 55 was done by the driver/owner and the mechanic. But, once you've been involved with that sort of adventure it hits you like an incurable desease and you become a front engine dragster fan forever. Yes, I built my own and enjoy even the bad times, thanks for your stories. We all have a lot of them. Mark Midler

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Re: Larry Sutton's take on "real" race car drivers
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2015, 08:20:19 AM »
Thanks for posting that. One of the reasons I go to nostalgia races is to talk to the old heads and hear these stories.

I was crewing at Cordova at a NDRA event (remember those guys) and complaining because our hotel room did not have the sleeper sofa we had requested and I had to sleep in a recliner instead. One of the old heads was less than impressed with my situation and told tales of a dozen racers renting one room and none of them slept in it because they were all out in the parking lot all night wrenching. Just used the room for the shower. He also had a great story about Ivo swapping hoods on all the Chevy dually pickups in the lot in the early 70's one night.

Do I wish I had been there? Sure. Would I rather race like they did instead of the safety and comforts of todays sport? Nah.
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Re: Larry Sutton's take on "real" race car drivers
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2015, 08:26:35 AM »
Funny thing.That is about what I told a guy when debating a FED with 4 link cushie riding RED. His Comment was. While I was using both hands to try to keep car off centerline and guardrail he would be driving down track relaxed and drinking a coke. My comment." yea well thats why they call it driving.

Great post
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Re: Larry Sutton's take on "real" race car drivers
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2015, 09:35:36 AM »
Superb post Roo, I enjoyed each line. Thank you for sharing it.

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Re: Larry Sutton's take on "real" race car drivers
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2015, 06:05:07 PM »
awesome post, Roo
Just keep the same amount of stuff on the right
as there is on the left. Seeing straight ahead is highly overrated....

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Re: Larry Sutton's take on "real" race car drivers
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2015, 07:22:22 PM »
that is a great story!!!!

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Re: Larry Sutton's take on "real" race car drivers
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2015, 05:27:02 AM »
Thank Pat Welsh for the original words, I just cut and pasted it.

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Re: Larry Sutton's take on "real" race car drivers
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2015, 06:14:24 PM »
bloody awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Larry Sutton's take on "real" race car drivers
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2015, 07:17:41 PM »
Thanks for posting that Roo!   I've had the pleasure of meeting Larry Sutton a couple times and he's a great guy.   Can you imagine the things he has seen over the years standing on the starting line of Lions, Irwindale and Orange County??   Thanks Again!

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Re: Larry Sutton's take on "real" race car drivers
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2015, 07:54:09 AM »
Back when I was a kid, my dad Gary Bailey drove for several teams here in div. 4. I remember going to the track with dad and the Anderson Bros. here out of Dallas. It was always a thrash for those guys, they were either going to set a record or blow up. Back in those days everyone around here ran the steel headed 392 and if you popped a blower it was pretty much over unless someone would loan you one. I remember when dad and the Carroll Bros. got their first 'big' sponsor, Valvoline, they got free cases of oil and man did they think that was great. Times have changed in the big show, kind of wish they would tone it down a little, but you know the saying, money talks. There are still a lot of us out here that race like in the old days, build our own engines, transmissions, owner operator, thrash between rounds and hang out, help and wrench with the guys that we stage our cars against. Racing is still alive and well, just on a different budget.

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Re: Larry Sutton's take on "real" race car drivers
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2015, 03:18:42 PM »
sg4082...
I knew your dad back in the day. He brought Richard Tharp over to Dallas from New Mexico. Tharp
drove my car for a while before he got famous. We raced the Anderson Bros. often. Great fun racing
fuel cars around Dallas in the 60's.

Mike
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Re: Larry Sutton's take on "real" race car drivers
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2015, 04:13:15 PM »
AF150,
 That's exactly right! Richard is from Las Cruses, as am I and he was always hanging around the family and dad. I used to laugh at my mom (probably a big mistake) because she used to always blame Tharp for my dad getting in trouble, ha. Boy was she wrong, lol. Talked to Richard a while back when my mom passed, but he's still pretty busy, Richard is still Richard! I was just a kid in the 60's, but I remember hanging out in Irving at Curt Carrolls house in the garage and over at the Anderson Bros shop in Oak Cliff. It was a great time, they were always thrashing on something and getting ready to go racing. I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, I always thought I would grow up to drive a fuel car, but we lost dad in the early 80's things changed. Family came first. So now I bracket race around here and up in Oklahoma. Maybe our paths will cross one day at Tulsa. Send me a facebook request so I can see your operation if you get a chance. Mike Bailey