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iron heads
« on: December 22, 2014, 04:57:40 PM »
Matt,
if you run old iron bbc heads on budweiser  8) , do you need to worry about not having harden seats.
thanks
steve m

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Re: iron heads
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2015, 11:02:02 AM »
wow 8) 78 views no opinions ;D

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Re: iron heads
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2015, 11:17:48 AM »
Only if you are using a power adder like Jack Daniels!
 

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Re: iron heads
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2015, 12:01:41 PM »
when you say running on Budweiser are you saying it is running on alcohol or unleaded gas? unleaded gas yes on hard seats.

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Re: iron heads
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2015, 01:25:09 PM »
At my engine shop we will see old iron heads that have been run on leaded race gas that STILL will have exh seats beat out--It is usually on the center pairs where heat is higher etc  Thing is we feel like it has lots to do with the cast iron--some are crappy and some are hard as can be and run year after year no effect what so ever--These days by the time you replace seats, guides etc you could have had new aluminums for a few $$ more--Now if you want to stay Old School Looking and use old iron I say run them like they are and they will probably be AOK but don't be surprised if they do erode/sink/get beat up
Kind of a crapshoot from all that we see
I have seen an old small block budget build no hardened seats in a pick up that tows a little --eat the exh seats out in a year so bad you would not believe it
Have seen old Mopar Max Wedge iron heads made in 1964 that have been raced since then and still look beautiful
 Race On a budget forget it and run-- just don't be surprised in a couple of years
Got $?--do the seats next time you need new guides and forget about it
Street?? Do it
( just my 2 cents worth but I see a LOT of heads every week)
I have always had a fascination with fast cars at the expense of more normal character development

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Re: iron heads
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2015, 05:34:12 AM »
 Hello Steve:
  If your using old cast iron cylinder heads I don't see the need for hard seats.
Detonation has more to do with damaging seats than anything else.
Stay conservative on the timing and go racing.
If the the engine is to lean or trying to detonate the heads will crack between the seats also.

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Re: iron heads
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2015, 06:35:56 AM »
THANKS ALL

 YES IT GOING TO RUN ON BUD :'( THIS MOTOR IS NOT SET UP FOR  JACK ???  HECK WHO KNOWS  8)
 I MIGHT START RUNNING ON MILLER OR MY BUDDY DANIELS   ;) I WILL ASK MY DOC TODAY IF IT OK
 
AGAIN THANKS MATT AND DAVE  FOR YOUR TIME THAT ALL WE HAVE!
GREAT MIND THINK ALIKE        GO RACING

PS IS 14 TO 1 TO MUCH FOR JACK? :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
STEVE M

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Re: iron heads
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2015, 09:54:55 AM »
Steve:
 Please clear my mind on your types of fuel  ???
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Re: iron heads
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2015, 02:53:43 PM »
METHANOL FOR THE MOTOR, NITRO? MAYBE WHEN DONE RACING THIS MOTOR.
 BUD (ALCOHOL) FOR MY CHEAP FRIENDS AND JACK FOR MY GOOD FRIENDS THAT BRINGS ME PARTS 8) OR ANSWERS ARE QUESTIONS :)