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Oils and Methanol
« on: August 22, 2014, 02:23:24 PM »
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Are Synthetic Oils compatible with methanol? If not what do I use - a 20/50 detergent mineral oil?
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Re: Oils and Methanol
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2014, 02:47:17 PM »
If you can get it ---- BRAD PENN OIL---  will not emulsfy with alc fuels

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Re: Oils and Methanol
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2014, 05:06:53 PM »

 I second that!

 Penn Grade 1 is fantastic with methanol or nitro. Did I mention I'm a dealer? :)

 Their website has a dealer look up tool so you can find a case close by:
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Re: Oils and Methanol
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2014, 06:38:21 PM »
Brad Penn works great in my application
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Re: Oils and Methanol
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2014, 07:32:51 PM »
Brad Penn here!
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Re: Oils and Methanol
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2014, 03:25:35 AM »
That's all well and good but I can't get it here so given that are synthetics compatible with Methanol in an injected engine?
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Re: Oils and Methanol
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2014, 03:44:46 AM »
ive been told no....can you get Rotella 15/40??
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Re: Oils and Methanol
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2014, 06:14:47 AM »
That's all well and good but I can't get it here so given that are synthetics compatible with Methanol in an injected engine?
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Re: Oils and Methanol
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2014, 09:13:55 AM »
My race oil supplier says we should NOT use a full synthetic oil in a methanol race engine, because synthetic oil and methanol are ester based products and the alky will dilute the oil too much. I use Motul 6100 10w40 synthetic blend oil in my 10,000 rpm NA SBC for 8 or 9 years. After replacing my alum rods when I got to 80 runs, the bearings looked so good I just put back on the rods.  Hey I'm not that cheap, rod bearing don't cost that much, but the bearings looked good, and were all broke in. We also run 60 to 65 lbs of oil pressure.  I use 6100 15w50 in my Hemi, different clearances.  Motul has additives that help anti-forming, anti-milking, besides lubing the high RPM motor.  If you have trouble finding Motul car oil [ most MC shops carry Motul] call Motul at 909-625-1292 for a dealer near you.
When I first started helping my current race car partner, he was not happy with the look of his bearings. Also I had not raced powerglides before only clutches so I bought a RacePak computer to understand what was going on with the FED. We found that the Titan oil pump had to adjusted down because the computer showed we were at 120 lbs. The bearings looked allot better at 55 to 65 lbs.
BTW we have never hurt any of my motors in 12 years of racing 7.00's 188 mph racing because of oil issues. We only hurt stuff because the trans broke and both times the motor went to 12,000 rpm. 

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Re: Oils and Methanol
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2014, 09:42:18 AM »
Really like the Bad Penn . My oil has never looked so good !

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Re: Oils and Methanol
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2014, 03:57:13 AM »
OK I'm sold on Brad 1 product. What  grade do I select for engine life in an injected 366 small block Chrysler with a flat tappet camshaft that see's 7,000 rpm in a 1250 LB FED?
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Re: Oils and Methanol
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2014, 09:01:49 AM »
I ran 50w in my 410 sprint car doing 50 laps around a 1/2 mile dirt track @ 7400 so thats the equivelent of 100 1/4 mile passes without stopping to change oil.
 Invest in a good oil filter that comes apart to inspect or a can filter cutter, inspect the element after every weekend and only replace what you pour out.

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Re: Oils and Methanol
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2014, 09:16:17 AM »
OK I'm sold on Brad 1 product. What  grade do I select for engine life in an injected 366 small block Chrysler with a flat tappet camshaft that see's 7,000 rpm in a 1250 LB FED?
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Oil weight should be selected on clearances in the engine, that is all I know on the subject, I asked the engine builder what weight should be run and his response was straight weight 50.

I have a system 1 remote filter that can be removed and the filter inspected.
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